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WARNING anbody thinking of purchasing AQUAGATE

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daveA51    0

hi just thought i would warn anbody thinking of buying an aquagate that overclocks there system dont botgher the unit can not cope with overclocked system at all even with the fan speed set to 3 which is maximum very noisy (should i say extremely noisy) ity could note cope with my clocked p4 system i am running an 3ghz p4 at 3.6ghz this is usually air cooled and i have no problems but i silly thought water cooling would be better how wrong was i after only 2 minutes of running at fan speed 1 my system was shutting down after that at fan speed 3 my cpu was still getting up to 60c and failing so i just went back to air cooling even at the height of summer this year my cpu never got over 32c thanks to my good old reliable aero 4 so if ya thinking of aquagate and ya clock just forget it i would hate to see what temp an amd would get to but i bet it would boil the water!!!

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Grump    0

The folks at http://www.SystemCooling.com don't agree with you. Here's their review (see the excerpt below).

Cooler Master has done a whole lot of things right with the Aquagate. It's a well designed and constructed system, it offers tremendous flexibility in mounting options, it's easy to install and control, and on top of everything else, looks great. Moreover, it offers great performance given its size, and with the fan speed cranked up will even offer the overclocker some decent headroom. Will it perform on the level of a full-size high performance water system? Of course not, but then again, it was never intended to. The Aquagate is a great setup for someone who wants a water cooling system that performs well, but who also wants an unobtrusive design easy installation, and low maintenance. In the world of water cooling, there are two products we've seen that have the potential to go a long ways toward advancing water cooling into the mainstream consciousness of computer enthusiasts; one is the Koolance Exos, and the other is the Cooler Master Aquagate.

http://www.Rage3D.com gave it a 4.5 out of 5 -- here's their review (excerpt below).

With the Aquagate Cooler Master has brought water-cooling down out of the elitist market to the average enthusiast. It is amazingly easy to install and, while I do not have the resources available to compare the unit to more traditional water-cooling setups, the Aquagate performs remarkably well for being packed into such a small enclosure. Will it perform as well as some other high-end water cooling options? Probably not, but that's not really the point of the Aquagate. It was designed for low-maintenance, to be easy to install, and flexible enough to work with just about any system. Most water-cooling systems and kits can't rightfully claim any of those attributes but the Aquagate effectively pulls off all three.

Even http://www.ExtremeOverclocking.com approved of it -- here's their review (excerpt below).

All in all the Coolermaster Aquagate with its self contained design and excellent performance is a fine addition to any system. With simple setup and almost no maintenance except for checking the fluid level every few months it is a welcome system for beginners and enthusiast who depend on stability and quiet operation. The system looks great even in dark cases with its brushed aluminum bezel and LCD display.

Your alarmist views aren't echoed by any of the major reviewers or websites. It isn't the best liquid cooling solution on the market, but it's a long way from the worst too. The new model will be much improved and offer more performance and features.

Grump

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Brok3n    0

I have an aquagate installed in my backup system and just like anything else, it has to be properly installed and maintained correctly to get optimal temperatures. I don't understand how an Aero4 is giving you better results, it shouldn't be possible. My backup system runs a Pentuim 4 at 3.8GHz and the aquagate keeps it at a nice cool 45c on load, keep in mind it is a heavily overclocked processor so 45 is extremely good.

Perhaps there are other issues within your system that need to be accounted for or the system itself has not been installed properly. I agree that their are other water systems out there offering better peformance but generally at a greater cost or require a more advanced custom installation. For a unit that comes more or less ready to go out of the box the aquagate is an excellent solution.

Again, I would check all the connections and read the manual carefully to enure I had everything installed properly and you are getting proper contact with the cpu as well as other major components. An Aero4 should be in no way competition for a Aquagate system in any computer configuration.

Also what is your system temperature? Although water cooling is ideal for silent operation, their still needs to be a good amount of case airflow in order to keep overall temperatures down. Case temperatures will still affect cpu temperatures, water cooling or not.

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stesio54    0

well...at ngilan04 i see that product and.....

it's for dummy overclokers-imho-

becouse:

1- a liquidi system must be silent and powerful...so a 80x80 it's not a good thing.....a system whith 1 or 2 120x120 it's a good thing!

2- the wb...ok...it's looking pretty...but...a good wb have to have about 500/550gr of copper......

in italy the liquid system are very powerfull......

they use a radiator system by 1 or 2 or 3 120x120 fan....wb from 500 gr to 1,2kg(it have a peltier inside...)...

so...if cooler master want to use a liquid system...have tointegrate in the case...not in the slot!

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Karma Ghost    0

Which, I might add, would be much more expensive. CM's Aquagate is not designed for the absolutely insane overclocker... just maybe someone new to testing the water (pun intended) for more exotic cooling forms.

But in no way is it an inferior cooling set up either. Before immediately blaming CM and their aquagate and coming to their forums and slandering them, consider that it may be installed incorrectly or something else may have been messed up...

One mistake I found a friend of mine made was that he put the temperature sensor between the core and the heatsink contact area on the heatsink and we were getting temps of 60C on some really nice heatsink. The guy was a good builder, but we all make mistakes.

So, I suggest you take a look again. Perhaps the tubing is pinched or the block is not tight enough on there? Did you properly bleed the system (I'm not sure if the aquagate makes you do that...) ?

Most all should understand that a water cooling setup, when properly done, should be cooler than most forms of air cooling.

I would say this a lot more calmly, but honestly I am a tad frustrated that you just make a warning post urging people not to buy this product because you have had a bad experience. As Grump has shown, most people don't have a problem with the aquagate. Perhaps if you had just posted asking why you were having a problem or why your temps were so high, I wouldn't be in such a foul mood answering.

I hope that you find the problem with your aquagate and get it fixed so that your impression of the equipment is not soured completely. It is a finely crafted product that you shouldn't give up on so fast.

Ghost

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Supreme    0

What ^^^^ he ^^^^said :P

60c using the Aquagate ...pftt

120mm fans ... ungly big @ss fans i stick with 80mm they doing good job. Then again it's not just the fans that do the cooling.

*Supreme*

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daveA51    0

i have been i computers for at least 15yrs and have had a overclocked/ modded system for years before it became mainstream the aquagate sucked in my system and was installed correctly. i must admit it was my first venture in to water cooling and my last it was probably the biggest waste of time i have ever ventured in to and im glad i did not have to pay to try this pile of rubbish i pitty anyone who has one guess ya just dont push ya systems to the limit

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bth    0

daveA51,

Thanks for sharing your experience. I don't mean this as a flame, but dude, punctuation will go a long way in making your points a bit more clear.

You sure you've got this thing installed correctly?

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daveA51    0

yes it was installed correctly i have been a full time tch for shop 6 years and have built 1000s of systems,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,punctuation is what ya did at school just leave it out :)

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Grump    0

If you have a problem with your Aquagate and it is not working to your expectations, I suggest you contact out excellent tech support specialist. If, after walking through your installation and operation procedures, you still have problems, perhaps you have a defective unit. I am positive both your vendor and Cooler Master would want to see that you get a properly working unit. We have an outstanding RMA policy.

If you are still not satisfied, then you would have a right to express your dissatisfaction with the product. Until then, you are making unsubstantiated and inflammatory claims. However, if that is your goal and not to discover the real problem or to find a solution, then I will be happy to remove your comments from the board.

As far as punctuation is concerned, you can do what you want. However, your posts appear to come from someone who did not pay much attention in school -- or may not have gotten to that part yet. Punctuation not only makes your writing much easier to read and understand, it would help us see you as a mature and credible person. But if you think it just gets in the way, what is to make us believe that following directions hasn't gotten in your way too?

Grump

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