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knud    129

Unlike CPU sockets, which remain for a few years and not too many different sockets (and some adapters work for various sockets), the GPU requires more than just a bracket for the GPU. You would also need to cool the memory and VRM (optional) and these differ per card. Of course, you could use separate heatsinks for that, but that is not something you want for your >200 euro/dollar card.

(and notice that full cover blocks are around 100 euro/dollar already..; will make a all-in-one GPU cooling solution somewhat expensive and models that can be supported limited)

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CM Jerry    43

Well, just like knud said, you do not only dissipate GPU but also VRM and Vram, this is the first reason.

Second, VGA vendors just follow a rough specification which limits the location of components. It's hard to fit each VGA product.

But for myself, I prefer a watercooling on the VGA, it definitely cool down the temp of GPU and make it more stable no matter gaming or home entertainment.

How do you think? :)

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knud    129

It always looks nice on somebody else his/her system, but I wont do it for my system. For me it's too much hassle as I need to research all the different components (radiator, pump, tubes, block, etc) and I tend to change my (SLI) graphics card every 2 year.

(plus I'm still afraid the water cooling system will leak... you know.. just my luck :P)

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You guys are going to need to address this problem anyway and my GPU's didn't cost 200 bucks; they're $2,849.99USD before they ever got to FedEx. Also people are going to start making 40 node desk-top, so called "supercomputers" if the must use cell phone chips. Intel jacked up their prices for NUC's, but that only means that some Chinese company will get the money they could have made. It's only a short time till Chinese companies start coming out with a rack for GPU's with power cables and PCIe risers. I'm already lusting over your COSMOS II, so why in the world wouldn't you bring out the COSMOS 40 node Raspberry Pi or the COSMOS Quad/Quinn/Sex/Septa/Octo/Novis/Deca...GPU?

The IBM PC XT filled up the case with two 51/4 inch floppies. Just about every body is as nuts as I am about the COSMOS II case and the "desktop supercomputer" is the way the way things are going to go. Just because Brian Krzanch is going the wrong direction trying to protect the price of his multi million dollar supercomputers doesn't mean you guys need to.

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world    84

Honestly, I don't think home-made "supercomputers" will catch on with more than a tiny group of people. Sure, it's a nice proof of concept to have a lot of raspberry pi systems hooked up to do parallel processing, etc., and there are some neat uses for it, but how practical is it for the large majority of people?

 

I would like to see better AIO GPU cooling out there as well, but I don't think it has anything to do with supercomputing

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What did wagon makers say about Ford some 90 years ago? I remember what my Dad told me. I remember him telling me of racing with the other guys; about 20mph, they were called "crazy" that a human being couldn't breath at speeds over 40mph.

Gamers aren't the ones buying-up all the COSMOS II cases, no window to show off their light emitting diodes. In this entire country (Philippines) I found one COSMOS (not the COSMOS II). Everywhere I go it's the same: "We don't have stocks, Sir." Same song with Tiger Direct. Now I'm thinking that somebody is buying those cases.

You make your statement about home-made supercomputers not catching on without any scientific data when in fact it's yesterday's news already. First of all we're not talking about a hall full of servers, were a basketball player can't see over the cabinet. We're talking about parallel computing and if you look back in history you'll see that what runs in most individual, if not all desktops is more computing power than fought World War 2. If you go to your local bank they've probably got more teraflops than fought the Cold War which ended in 1991.

IBM thought that when they left personal computing that the industry would collapse. IBM thought that Intel and Microsoft would be forced to stay with IBM when they pulled out, because; You guessed it! Home computing was a tiny group. Look at how much money IBM has missed out on from a product they invented.

I thought that you were an innovative company, but now I think that you are wagon makers that fired whomever designed the COSMOS II.

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world    84

My understanding is that the guy who designed the COSMOS II is still at CM and still designing, so I don't know what you're talking about with that.

 

The issue with home-made super computers is that there is no practical application for most people. I know there is niche usage for parallel processing at home, but having it catch on with the mass market? Not for a very long time, I would say. Besides, having a massive cluster of raspberry pi units isn't even that powerful, and motherboards don't properly support anything more than 7 or 8 GPUs right now. There was a large wave of people buying huge cases with high GPU capacity for cryptocurrency mining last year, but that's died down for the most part by now.

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Cool-beans it's not just going to be GPU's; HPC Clusters have, until now been an area for specialists and it's all ready to go mainstream. There's already movement by the same bunch that didn't let the PC-XT die to put a motherboard in an optical drive package so that we can have a Head Node and Node 1, Node 2,,,in the same case running Windows 2008 or 2012. Add that to two Intel E-7 family CPU's on the motherboard and 4, 6, or 8 GPU's or 6 GPU's and a Matrox system is what I'm talking about. I don't need it for steeling cypercoins, I take money the legal way; by manufacturing snack food and flavorings, lending money, trading shares of common stock, and designing reef aquarium systems.

Yes, people with such education are a tiny little segment of the population as there are only a few tens of millions of us in a world almost six billion. Part of which population are the 40mph Terminal velocity types that are going to be shocked by desktop electron scanning microscopes 10 years ago, I-max on TV this year, 4K streaming TV sets in 2016 or 2017, semi-autonomous Fords in the showroom now, 400hp 3 cylinder DOHC tear-3 diesels  on the road now, a fully autonomous Mercedes-Benzes in Los Vegas this week, and fully autonomous armed Robot Swarm-boats guarding harbors now.

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