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  1. My Samsung HD204UI is dying, so I bought a WD Red 3TB to replace it. I was going to put it in the X-Dock whilst I copied over my data but it doesn't seem to fit. It almost seems that if the drive protrudes above the tray then it hits something that prevents it going in at all but that can't be right as I'm sure all 3.5" drives are higher than the tray. The reason I was planning to use the X-Dock initially is because the drive cage is so damn hard to remove. It seems I have to remove the motherboard tray to get to the two screws going into the posts securing the cage to the area beneath the tray, as well as the four screws underneath the case. I have to do this, as it's impossible to remove the bottom drive (which happens to be the Samsung) otherwise, as it hits on the lip at the bottom of the case. Probably a 2.5" SSD in it's tray would go in and out OK but I'm not even sure if that would work if there were SSDs on both the top and bottom of the trary. Seems like a really bad design I'm afraid, forcing me to disconnect everything and remove the motherboard just to swap HDDs. If the cage was just the other way up, with the two struts at the bottom instead and both drives higher up, then both would easily slide in and out without having to dismantle everything. In fact, I doubt it even needs the two struts and the cage would probably be secure enough just with the four bottom screws holding it in place, so you could have just made the cage with a bigger gap at the bottom, raising the bottom drive clear above the case lip. Do you think you might be able to make a replacement part like that, as I really don't want to have this hassle again next time I need to take the drive out? Otherwise, all I can think of is to remove the cage completely and put some foam on the bottom of the case for the drives to rest on, which is obviously no good for transporting.
  2. Could well be. I changed my motherboard to a Z97-A recently and they didn't fit through the holes in that any better than on my MSI 990FXA-GD80, so I'm pretty sure they're not meant to.
  3. Oh well. I can't see any real advantage to the protrusions on those two standoffs, so I don't suppose it matters that I swapped them for normal ones. I've just fitted the USB 3 lead from my Dad's NZXT Source 530 case to his Asus Z97-A board and that went on no problem. Looking at the plug on that, it doesn't have the large tags that the HAF XB EVO one had, so I guess it was a manufacturing fault that caused them. No big deal, it was easy enough to slice them off. I haven't got round to removing the HDD cage to fit the 2nd 3.5" HDD but it seems to be the way to go, as it really doesn't seem designed to go in with it in place, not unless you have a bendable drive anyway
  4. No worries. I did contact support but fixed the problem with the USB cable myself by scraping off the four lugs top and bottom, either side of the central key, with a scalpel. It seems the header on the motherboard had similar lugs so there was no way it would go in otherwise and even if I'd somehow managed to force it in, I doubt I'd ever get it out again. The cable that came with the motherboard didn't have such lugs, so I'm not sure what's 'standard' but I'd be surprised if the board had a non-standard header fitted. As for the motherboard spacers, you might be right that the protrusions are meant to pop into the motherboard holes but I've never seen anything like this before and I'm not sure if the protrusion is big enough to then accept a screw to secure the board, so it seems easier just to use normal spacers and screws, particularly as I can't do the edge screws up properly due to the fact that the board is see-sawing in the middle. I'll try and check with another board soon, to see if it's a problem with the board or the case.
  5. Is there an e-mail address for the TW or EU office? I don't really want to call Taiwan to discuss it.
  6. If the drives aren't being used most of the time, can't you just set them to spin-down? Then they shouldn't generate much heat at all and when one drive is used, that alone won't generate much heat either. I know I did this with a WD drive I use as an offsite backup, installed in my Dad's PC. It has an issue with making an annoying noise, so someone came up with a script to make it stay spun-down unless it's actually being used.
  7. So today I moved my kit from it's temporary storage crate 'case' into the XB EVO I just bought. One of the benefits of a case like this is it's easy to get to all the motherboard screws, particularly that awkward one that sits at the top and is normally obscured by the CPU HSF. No problems with this case, with the side panel off, it's completely accessible Now the problems. Firstly, there were two motherboard spacers already in place but they were taller than normal (and the ones supplied in the bag) and had a strange protrusion. With no explanation in the manual, I presumed this must be a mistake as surely you want all the spacers the same height, to keep the board flat. However, even with normal spacers in all the ATX holes my board doesn't sit flat and if the top edge of the board is flat against the spacers, the bottom edge is raised off them and vice-versa, as if there was something in the middle that the board is pivoting on, like a see-saw. It may be that my board has warped a bit over time but it's been laid horizontal since I got it so, so it's not like the weight of the HSF and GPU was hanging off the board (this is actually one of the reasons why I've been looking for/planning to make a case like the XB EVO, to avoid that and hopefully prolong the life of my boards). I tried removing the middle middle spacer, which helped a bit but it's still not great, so I've just done the screws up very losely for now to avoid straining the board but obviously I can't leave it like that forever and need to make it secure some time. The other problem is that the USB3 cable to the front panel appears to be broken as it absolutely won't plug into my motherboard (MSI 990FXA-GD80) header. I tried for ages but I was worried I was just going to snap the header off the board. I then looked through my motherboard box and found a rear-panel USB3 bracket and that plugs into the header no problem. I checked and the header does have the pin removed to match the XB EVO cable (obviously this is an industry standard thing), so there's no reason I can see why it shouldn't go on, other than it's been manufactered faulty with the holes at the wrong spacing or something. The cable that came with the motherboard doesn't have any holes blocked off but that doesn't matter, as long as the header is standard, which it seems to be. Might Cooler Master be able to send me a replacement USB 3 cable/bracket, as I absolutely need to have the USB3 ports on the front of my case? Fitting my graphics card was also very difficult, as with the motherboard tray screwed in, the spacing between the rear panel and the board didn't seem right, so that the card was pushed a bit towards the front of the case and thus wouldn't line up with the PCI-E slot. I managed to get it in by loosening the tray screws and nudging the tray towards the front of the case a bit and then I managed to get the card to go in the slot. I'm not sure I should have to do that though. Regarding the HDD cage, there's no way I can get two 3.5" HDD in there. I tried putting one in the bottom slot first but due to the raised edge of the case, it makes the drive go in at an angle and then it just got stuck about 3/4 of the way in (if you think about it, the angle increase the more it goes in) and it took me a worrying 10 minutes to get it out again! An SSD in the adapter tray goes in OK as the plastic tray can bend a bit as it goes in, which a metal HDD obviously can't. Has anyone else run into these problems? I still love the form of the case and I'm very happy I found it but these issues do let it down a bit and make it feel a bit cheap and not as well tested as it should have been. EDIT: Ah, I forgot the HDD cage is removable in the EVO, so I guess I'm meant to remove it to fit a 3.5" HDD in the bottom slot. In my defence though, the manual does show two HDD being inserted in place and doesn't suggest it needs to be removed.
  8. Not really, as they explain the CP-850 is designed to have it's own intake, separate from the rest of the system, which it gets in the Antec cases designed for it but not in SPCR's hotbox which the chart results are from and as discussed here http://www.silentpcreview.com/article971-page6.html Most other PSUs have a bottom-mounted fan, drawing air from outside the case and thus they have their own separate intake already, so the question is, do they also only produce '24 dBA@1m at 700w load' when the ambient temperate is 27c? I'm sure I've seen some non-Antec cases that provide a separate chamber for the PSU, although not ones that the CP-850 would fit in but it wouldn't be hard to design cases that play to it's strengths and provide it with it's own intake. For example, with the XB EVO, the PSU could have the left-side to itself, with a single X-Dock and 5.25" ODD bay on the right and the HDD cage behind those. Then, with a divider between the two sides (allowing a gap to route power cables from the PSU to the drives), the CP-850 could draw air through a dedicated intake at the front or on the side of the case (and even bottom mounted PSUs would probably benefit from being in a separate, cooler, chamber and would have more space in front of them for their cables, whether modular or not.
  9. Perhaps you're right, although unless there actually are some ATX PSUs that can reach only '24 dBA@1m at 700W load in a 27°C working environment' (confirmed by SPCR or someone equally independent and thorough), which are as cheap or cheaper than the CP-850 and have equally impressive electrical performance and reliability, it would rather suggest that's not true
  10. Well I can only quote what other, more knowledgable, peope have said 'Fundamentally, the straight-through airflow with the big fan and the dual PCBs keeps all the core heat-generating components in the center of a bigger casing; the lower thermal/power density has many benefits for reliability, cooling and cost: Not only can components be kept cooler with lower fan rpm, but they don't have to be rated for as high temperature, and still be extremely reliable and long lived. Lower temperature rated components means lower cost. More room in the casing means the option to use larger parts, which again are less costly than smaller power electronic parts of the same rating. These engineering efficiencies allow very high power capability and performance at modest cost.' For more, have a read of what SPCR's review said about it: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article971-page7.html especially: 'Our atypical spot check with a room ambient thermal test showed the CP-850 would reach only 24 dBA@1m at 700W load in a 27°C working environment. This is ridiculously quiet for such high power output.'
  11. It was a nice idea of theirs, to come up with a new form (CPX) to replace the 20-year old ATX, with all it's inherent problems, especially with the high power PSUs we have today. It was always going to be a struggle to make the industry adopt it though, unfortunately. I would have personally designed the XB EVO with a higher bottom chamber, if only to allow room for a 120mm fan at the back instead of two 80mm, which would have also made it high enough to accomodate a CPX PSU as a bonus. I would have also put the PSU on the left, behind the optical drives, rather than behind the X-Docks, as a lot of people don't even use ODD's these days and you can get short ones or external USB ones, whilst most people will need to use the X-Docks, so there would have been a lot more room in front of the PSU for the cables and made it easier to plug in modular cables (modular cables tend to plug in on the left side as well, so they'd have been on the outside, rather than inside as they are now) without needing to remove the PSU, or at least pulling it out a bit. The design for my custom case also had the upper chamber lift off the lower one, to make it even easier to fit the PSU and drives, which would have been nice to have with the XB EVO as well. Maybe if they ever make a new version they'll think about using some of these ideas and send me a free one for sharing them
  12. I should have known it was too good to be true. I thought I'd found my dream case but until I unpacked it just now, I'd forgotten that my Antec CP-850 PSU http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/global/product.php?Type=MQ==&id=NzIw is oversized and so it won't fit It looks like it would probably have enough width (17.53cm) and depth (20.07mm), although the cables would probably not fit in without removing the X-docks but it just doesn't have enough height (11.94cm) and there's nothing that can be done about that. So I guess I'll have to spend another £60+ on a new PSU and hope I can get a decent price selling my CP-850, which might be tricky considering it doesn't fit in most cases.
  13. Thanks, that's fine then as 2*2.5" and 2*3.5" drives is all I'm likely to ever need I'll probably stick the SSDs in the X-Docks at the front, with the HDDs further back where their noise might be less noticeable and they'll get a bit more airflow.
  14. Thanks. I'm still not clear though and it's not clear to me what those three removable drive cages are for. Does the HAF XB EVO have two X-Docks, which take either 3.5" or 2.5" drives and another two internal drive bays that will take either 3.5" or 2.5" drives? Does the HAF XB have two X-Docks, which take either 3.5" or 2.5" HDD/SDD and another four internal drive bays, which will only take 2.5" drives?
  15. I haven't bought the case yet either, as I was hoping to find the windowed version. I wouldn't mind buying the panel separately, depending on how much shipping will be to the UK but it's not clear if they're going to come back in stock ever. I don't think I'll need the mesh top, as it's never that hot here in the UK and the front to back airflow should be sufficient, as that's all I ever use in standard tower cases. For those who want/need the top venting, it would be great if there was a top panel with the window raised, leaving a gap between the window and the panel for hot air to escape, giving the best of both worlds. I guess I'll probably buy the case even if it's not possible to get the windowed panel anymore, as it's still pretty close to what I was planning to build myself. I doubt I'm skilled enough to mod it or make a windowed panel myself but maybe one day I'll find someone who can do it for me. Do CM have any plans to make any new cases in this form? The main issue I've read about is the flimsiness of the drive bays/covers but it wasn't a big deal and doesn't seem to be an issue once the bays are filled. I would probably have put the HDDs at the rear of the case, where the noise they make would be less noticeable, with a fan on the rear panel pulling air over them, with the 5.25" bays directly in front of the HDDs, so that the lower left part of the case would just contain the PSU and front panel ports/buttons and then thermally isolate the PSU side from the drives side, just to keep the PSU cooler so it's fan runs slower. Other than that though, it's like my dream come true